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Marc-Antoine Julliard

London-based commodities trader specializing in cocoa brokerage who held an account on FTX.

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On Day 2, Julliard testified for the prosecution as an FTX customer. He described researching the exchange before opening an account in spring 2021, considering its size, investors, marketing, leadership, interface, fees, and trading platform.

He said he principally used wire transfers and spot trading, avoided margin and lending products, and deposited 110,000 pounds during a period in 2022. He understood the Bitcoin and dollars displayed in his wallet to be his assets, expected to control withdrawals, and did not expect FTX or another party to use or lend his deposits.

Julliard testified that November posts describing withdrawal delays as technical and assuring customers that assets remained available led him to wait. On November 8, he requested withdrawals of about $20,000 and one Bitcoin; he said the requests were not processed and the deposits shown in his account records were never recovered. The court limited his recollections of news and related reports to their effect on his actions and knowledge.

On cross-examination, Julliard acknowledged knowing that cryptocurrency was unregulated, risky, and capable of substantial gains or losses. He also acknowledged placing a significant amount of savings on FTX, receiving terms of service he could not recall reviewing, never attempting a withdrawal before November 2022, and having no prior personal contact with Bankman-Fried. He did not accept a proposed 70 percent savings estimate, clarified that advertisements did not themselves determine his decision, and described major firms' investment as one contributing factor among his own research. On redirect, he distinguished Bitcoin price volatility from the possibility that FTX would take and spend account assets, a risk he said he had not considered.

Trial Record (9)

FederalFederal Criminal TrialOct 3, 2023 – Nov 2, 2023Called by prosecution

On Day 2, Julliard testified about researching FTX, making substantial deposits, relying on assurances that assets remained available, and unsuccessful November 2022 withdrawal requests. Cross-examination tested his awareness of cryptocurrency risk and bases for choosing FTX, while redirect distinguished market volatility from the risk that FTX would spend customer assets.

Day 2

DirectMarc-Antoine Julliard — DirectMarc-Antoine JulliardDanielle Kudla9highlights132lines spoken

Summary

Marc-Antoine Julliard testified that FTX's reputation and November 2022 assurances influenced his decisions to deposit substantial funds and delay withdrawing them, after which his withdrawal requests were never processed.

Highlights (9)

Quote“I was about to commit significant amounts of money to trading cryptocurrencies, and I wanted to be sure of what I was dealing with, so I wanted to assess the exchange.”— Marc-Antoine JulliardJulliard described undertaking research because he anticipated committing substantial funds, establishing the basis for his account-selection testimony.Open in transcript →
testimony highlightAfter the court and counsel clarified the display of Government Exhibit 426, Julliard identified it as his deposit-history screenshot and testified that he deposited 110,000 pounds between April 20 and May 12, 2022, a sum he described as huge for him.Open in transcript →
admissionJulliard testified that he understood he could withdraw his account balance at any time, did not expect others to use his deposits, and deliberately avoided products that involved lending cryptocurrency.Open in transcript →
Quote“Well, it was essential. I wouldn't put money somewhere if I couldn't take it back with me.”— Marc-Antoine JulliardJulliard stated that the ability to withdraw his deposits at a time of his choosing was essential to his decision to place money on FTX.Open in transcript →
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Quote“If I trade, I'm responsible of my own decisions and I bear the consequences. I had the strategy. I was prepared for——I knew how it was calculated and for what period of time. If someone else trades on my behalf, all for themselves and face consequences, that's not the consequences of my actions. If money is lost, I'm not responsible for it. That's not what I signed up for.”— Marc-Antoine JulliardJulliard distinguished the trading risks he accepted from the possibility that another party could use and lose his deposits.Open in transcript →
rulingAt the defense's request, the court instructed the jury that Julliard's recollections of news about company bailouts and related matters were admitted for their effect on his actions and knowledge, not for their truth.Open in transcript →
testimony highlightJulliard testified that November 6 and 7 posts led him to understand that withdrawal delays were technical and that customer money remained available; he did not withdraw on either day.Open in transcript →
Quote“Money was there, it was fine, technical——technical difficulties, wait for the dust to settle, just sit and wait.”— Marc-Antoine JulliardJulliard summarized his understanding of Sam Bankman-Fried's November 7 posts and why he did not withdraw that day.Open in transcript →
emotional momentJulliard described attempted withdrawals of about $20,000 and one Bitcoin on November 8, 2022. He said neither request was processed, that he became extremely anxious, and that he had never recovered the deposits shown in the exhibit.Open in transcript →
RedirectMarc-Antoine Julliard — RedirectMarc-Antoine JulliardDanielle Kudla1highlight4lines spoken

Summary

Julliard distinguished Bitcoin's price volatility from the risk that FTX might spend his funds, which he believed belonged to him.

Highlights (1)

testimony highlightJulliard distinguished Bitcoin's price volatility from the possibility that FTX could spend his funds, saying he had not considered that risk and believed the Bitcoin and dollars in his account belonged to him.Open in transcript →

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